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74. Dr. Dean Radin And Dr. Roger Nelson Respond to Global Consciousness Project Criticisms

May 27th, 2009 Alex

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  • C.Allen

    Hello!
    This is the first time I read on this website and the interview was very enriching.
    (I don’t mean to be rude but i will assume that the author didn’t manipulate or mis-point arguments, including those in the response).

    I found Alex Tsakiris stance a bit rude at first(It was understandable as the GCP is very unbelievable itself), but I congratulate his “Professional” skeptic(unlike some famous people we all know who like to use personal attacks) approach in providing us with all the information and responds(assuming this is not a conspiracy :p).

    I agree when parapsychologist says:
    It’s fine if people don’t want to believe, but if you broadcast that the whole stuff bunk then you should at least analyse the data and provide good criticism.

  • http://www.parapsychology3.blogspot.com/ joulail

    ohhhhhh
    thx friend for this great share
    have a nice day

  • P_Synthesis

    Man, I've been going through your back catalogue, just dotting around. Will continue to do so. When I found the Marilynn Hughes piece I thought that was good, but I really had no idea what you have been doing, the journey you've gone on.

    This is a serious, even-handed discussion on the evidence that demonstrates just why certain forms of truth are disallowed-by-fiat. The beauty of that final Dunning gambit, to say, this is not discussable so I cannot discuss it! There couldn't be a clearer demonstration of what the skeptic mindset really is.

    I thought people like you didn't exist! Really! I tend to look at these things sociologically. The last book I read on this (which made exactly the same points you're making) was McClenon's 'Deviant Science'. That was published in '85. The evidence base has, I understand, only got stronger over the years, but the position of the skeptics hasn't changed.

    I have regular 'mystical' experiences and so I come at this from two sides. Thanks for making a place for the rationalist in me to come, where the hard work of actually going line-by-line through the issues is being done, and done with such patience. Outstanding! And so many more shows still for me to catch up on… happy new year.

  • http://www.skeptiko.com/ Alex Tsakiris

    so cool… you made my day :)

    Skeptiko has been a wonderful (this is trite, but I gotta say it) journey. It's funny but I kinda find the silliness of Dunning's position (…and Ben Radford's… and others) comforting. I started with a “how can this be question”… when I encounter this stuff from “critical thinkers” I feel like I'm beginning to understand how we wound up in this goofy stagnated state of science.

    Got some good stuff coming up… glad you're along for the ride :)

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  • P_Synthesis

    Wish I could say I found their positions comforting… perhaps continued exposure to your mindset will help me achieved this enlightened state. :)

    John Michael Greer, who's very sensible on these things, pointed out recently that Dawkins is sounding more and more like Pat Robertson these days… I'm still at the stage where I find that kind of scary, but if I can move to this idea that it's just the same old familiar comforting old head-in-sand thing, I will be a happier guy.

    Anyway, can't wait for more. Will be listening.

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